FAQ's
The talented young Scottish Pianist Joseph Fleetwood,
currently studying as a post-graduate pupil of Gordon Fergus-Thompson
at the Royal College of Music in London, recently requested
an interview with Murray McLachlan as part of the requirements
for a dissertation associated with his post-graduate research.
Because of his busy schedule, McLachlan preferred to reply
to Joseph’s list of questions via E mail. The results
in many ways act as a biographical sketch of McLachlan.
Both Joseph Fleetwood and Murray McLachlan were happy to
give permission for the questions and answers to be re-produced
here.
SECTION ONE: STARTING OUT
1.What inspired you to start?
Luckily my parents played classical
LPs in our Dundee flat from the moment I was born (6
Jan 1965). One of their
earliest recollections of me is as a ‘terrible two
year old, bouncing manically’ on my bed in time to
Sullivan’s ‘The Gondoliers’. My father
promptly assumed that I was destined for a career as an
Olympian gymnastic candidate! But apparently by the time
I was three I had already wrecked the gramophone player
by roughly and crudely trying to play LPs myself, rather
than waiting for more experienced hands to turn on the
machine!
My mother was also quite a natural
sight reader and enjoyed playing the piano for fun. As
a young child I adored the
way she would enliven comparatively easy arrangements by
adding her own extra ‘double octave’ left hand
notes, not to mention the liberal, generous doses of sustaining
pedal! Much more interesting than the Spartan, economical
notes on her printed copies! ‘Tango for two guitars’,
Ross Conway, ‘Bewitched’, ‘Stranger on
the Shore’, ‘Sleigh bells’ ‘Black
and White Rag’… all very intriguing stuff for
a pre-schooler such as yours truly.
In the months prior to my birth my
mother even re-commenced piano lessons for a brief period
(they had been abruptly
stopped when she was thirteen and had to go to senior school),
so, with more than a dab of irony, I can truthfully state
that I had my first piano lessons -on Grade 4 exam pieces-
whilst still in my mother’s womb!
But in direct response to the question,
it was just always assumed as a matter of course that
I would learn to play
the piano, but ‘not until you can read’. This
was regarded as important by both my parents. However,
I am now not so sure, and indeed I have been teaching my
three year old son Matthew to play over the past few weeks,
and he is far from secure in his grasp of the English language,
to say the least. But we are making great headway already.
At the risk of going way off the point, it is worth mentioning
that too much piano teaching in the past has been concerned
with the challenges of notation as opposed to the exploration
of sonority.
2.What was your early musical training like?
I attended a local state primary school
in Aberdeen called ‘Ferryhill
Primary School’, and the service of one thirty minute
lesson per week was offered for the seven year olds and
upwards. I had a charming lady called Miss Sabestan ( I
think that was how she spelt her name). She originally
hailed from the Outer Hebrides, I seem to recall, and though
on first meeting me she apparently thought that I was ‘far
too shy to even lift his fingers onto the keyboard’,
progress was swift. There was no time for theory or even
aural training at this stage, but luckily I spent a lot
of my time at home just picking up my mother’s old
music, and this was to do me a lot of good. For personal
reasons, the kind Miss Sabestan had to leave, and I had
to continue sight reading for a number of months on my
own until another teacher arrived. This proved unsuccessful
and frustrating, leading to private lessons with a remarkable
lady called Mary Alexander from late January 1975 through
to June 1978. She subsequently became a really good friend
and confidant until her death in 1990 at 79. Mary was not
really a pianist, but she was a remarkable campaigner for
Pensioner’s rights, all sorts of causes, had worked
in the Civil service, and had found a lot of success as
a singer. She had around 100 private piano pupils at one
stage of her ‘retirement’ and was a firm believer
in a really sound knowledge of theory of music. Indeed
theory was a passion, and most of her pupils received 100
per cent or thereabouts in the Trinity College examinations
(Grades 1-5 inclusive mainly). I admired her passionate
evangelical zeal over justice and indeed over practical,
rather than intellectually abstract, left wing issues.
Musically she steered me through Grade after Grade. I have
to confess that I was fairly ‘naughty’ as a
pupil, preferring to sight read all sorts of things rather
than practice for lessons. I do not know if she realised
just how little was actually done. But I certainly ‘won’ my
fair share of exhibitions for highest marks in Trinity
Examinations. Interestingly enough, I am told that Martin
Roscoe also did rather well in his Trinity Grade Examinations……… Fortunately
Miss Alexander was not a pedant, and it only took around
ten minutes of impassioned persuasion from yours truly
each year for her to allow me to skip the odd grade here
and there. No way did I want to be bogged down in that
sort of methodology for eight years!
But I have to say that I did not consider
myself primarily a pianist until much later on when I
was a pupil at Chetham’s.
Indeed I went to Chetham’s in 1979 as a first study
guitarist and second study clarinettist, having achieved
Grade 8 passes with honours/distinction in all three instruments,
won prizes for guitar and piano grade 8, performed the
Vivaldi D major Guitar concerto, won the trophy at 13 -
again as a guitarist- for the best instrumentalist in the
1978 Aberdeen and North East of Scotland Music Festival
(James Gibb was quoted in the press as saying I was a ‘remarkable
Young Artiste’ after I played Villa Lobos, Guliani
and Dowland in a small recital against others who had gained
places at London Music Conservatoires, etc). By ten there
were over 100 ‘compositions’ which I had written
out. Many of these still exist, including a ‘Garden
Suite’ for my father’s birthday (April 1974).
All harmless stuff, but it did at least instil a sense
of harmony, structure, it was good fun, and by then I had
discovered that I was lucky (or unlucky?) enough to have
perfect pitch.
So the piano took its place in a broad
musical education. I could mention the composer Shaun
Dillon who taught me
Clarinet and who helped with all those ‘compositions’.
He also lent loads of recordings, and provided hours of
stimulating conversation. I could mention my guitar teachers
Alistair Reid and David Allan, as well as a well-meaning
Head of Music Neil Meldrum, a good natured Music Advisor
Donald Hawksworth and all the happy Saturday mornings spent
in Concert Bands as a clarinettist, moving on to the Harlaw
Academy (my comprehensive school) Orchestra, and finally,
as a clarinettist, the Aberdeen Music Centre Senior Orchestra.
Evelyn Glennie had a very similar upbringing musically
in her early years apparently, and we even played in the
same local concert when she was on timpani in the percussion
section whilst I played my first ever concerto ; Rachmaninov’s
Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini with the Grampian Schools’s
symphony Orchestra in July 1981 in the Music Hall Aberdeen.
But the Rachmaninov concerto was later. Before then I
had a year with the excellent Robert Howie for more serious
piano study at 13. Bob jam-packed a year of study with
an enormous amount of repertoire (Beethoven op.10 no.3,
op.14 no.1, op.2 no.1, Chopin Polonaise, Nocturne, Waltz,
Mendelssohn Rondo Capriccioso, Mozart 19th Concerto, Bach
Preludes and Fugues, Czerny, Chopin Etudes, York Bowen,
John Ireland, etc,etc Quite a list!
Anyway, by Autumn 1978 the need was felt to develop musically
away from North East Scotland. This had been encouraged
by the violin teacher Warren Jacobs (a festival adjudicator
who had also been very encouraging about the guitarist
Murray McLachlan). Incidentally, another festival adjudicator
from 1978 who was extremely positive about my guitar performing
was the composer John McLeod, someone whom I would later
work closely with on many pianistic projects, including
the world premiere of his Third Piano Sonata, dedicated
to me.
Despite the inevitable reservations
about leaving home for a boarding school in Manchester
(and for an only child,
358 miles away from home is no mean proposition) at the
time I was determined to journey somewhere that could expand
and develop my musical education. Auditioning on all three
instruments in May 1979 led to me beginning education at ‘Chet’s’ in
the September of that year. After much discussion with
my parents and the Director of Music at Chetham’s
at that time, Michael Brewer, it was felt that the piano
was best ‘stopped’ for the moment as it would
be too difficult to continue with it and the guitar. The
clarinet was seen as less of a conflict. But as things
turned out, I still continued to play the piano for ‘fun’ when
no-one was looking at school. By a stroke of amazing luck
a wonderful piano teacher called David Hartigan heard me
playing over Debussy Pour Le Piano, Beethoven op.10 no.3
and Mendelssohn Rondo Capriccioso. On discovering that
I did not have a teacher, he stuck his neck out, got into
quite a lot of trouble at the time (for which I am eternally
grateful!) and ended up teaching me second study piano
from Jan 1980 through to the end of my schooling in Manchester
in July 1983. I enjoyed my guitar lessons with Gordon Crosskey
a lot, as well as the many inspiring sessions with Neil
Smith, a wonderful performer as well as a brilliant tutor
of guitar. And the sessions of one term only with Graham
Turner from the Halle were fantastic, even though my heart
was never really in the clarinet. Ultimately I found that
my nails were not strong enough to be able to make the
grade as a guitarist, and of course there were terrible
conflicts between guitar and piano (hence the reason for
not starting Chetham’s with both on board). Under
David Hartigan’s inspired guidance, the piano became
more and more important. Things came to a head in October
1981 when I entered the BBC Young Musician of the Year
as both a guitarist and pianist. I was eliminated quickly
on the guitar, but progressed as winner of the Scotland/Northern
Ireland final on the piano. That more or less settled it-
not because of the competition itself, but merely because
it was to take far too long preparing for the remainder
of the competition on the piano to have any time left for
the guitar.
3. Where did you study and who with?
David Hartigan at Chetham’s was an enormous influence.
His tragic sudden death at the age of 50 in 1996 was a
great loss for piano teaching in Manchester. He was relatively
unknown as a teacher when I first started out with him,
officially ‘second study’ but unofficially
receiving many, many extra hours. A wonderful source of
inspiration, and also a real builder of organising techniques
and mechanical know-how around the keyboard. David also
built up co-ordination, memorisation, stamina, energy,
determination and many ‘nuts and bolts’ issues
that have to be addressed. After Chetham’s I felt
the need for a complete change and at Cambridge University,
where I read music, I also journeyed for private lessons
from David’s teacher Professor Ryszard Bakst (1926-1999)
the Chopin specialist and indeed former prize-winner at
the Chopin competition in Warsaw. I remember many wonderful
insights into phrasing, poetry at the piano, rhythm, fidelity
to the text. Indeed Bakst expected lucidity and clarity
in everything that was presented to him by his students.
Subsequently I was privileged to study for four years with
the distinguished British Pianist Peter Katin, a wonderful
teacher who had so much to say with regard to technique,
arm weight, as well as musically. To study with someone
who has had so much experience of performing the great
concertos and recital repertoire is very precious. Norma
Fisher was also a tremendous help, with so much inspiring
help on all levels, particularly with regard to sound,
approach, organic playing, projection, creativity. Finally
Ronald Stevenson has been incredibly generous over the
years. His words of wisdom have stood the test of time,
and I still remember very clearly ‘lessons’ on
Scarlatti, Rachmaninov, Bach-Busoni and basic technique
which took place as far back as April 1983. He most certainly
has been a decisive influence, possibly the strongest.
All sessions with Ronald took place at his home in West
Linton, Scotland, and most of them were informal.
4. Did you take the competition route?
Certainly the ‘successes’ which I have had
in competitions on a national level have led directly to
many opportunities, but no, I did not even enter the Leeds,
Tchaikovsky or Chopin competitions! I am not sure that
I am even aware of a ‘route’ that I have taken
,other than that of performing, being fortunate enough
to find audiences who enjoyed what they heard, and being
asked as a result to perform again. Ultimately this is
what builds a musician’s reputation, and it is this
that counts for more than anything else.
5. How do you feel about the competition
route?
By all means enter competitions, but
do build up a reservoir of strength alongside them. To
be an artist you need to
be very strong and sensitive at the same time. Alongside
the competition circuit time has to be spent building up
concert experience, a repertoire and so on. There is a
danger of becoming obsessively bogged down with competitions
in some cases, and this could if not watched could lead
to the ‘perpetual student’ situation, which
is of course ultimately destructive. There is certainly
a danger of low self esteem if success in a materialistic
sense does not come along in competitions. This is a great
shame, as all talent, no matter how big or small, is very
precious and should be encouraged and nurtured in a caring
way. Ultimately, competitions are either positive or negative
depending on an individual’s attitude and state of
mind.
6. Did you put on your own concerts? (self funded)
I cannot remember ever having done so. Perhaps it is the
canny Scot in me, or perhaps I have just been incredibly
fortunate, but this is not something I have ever thought
of developing. At least in this country there are still
numerous societies who are willing to promote young artists.
From what I hear on the grape-vine from over-seas students,
self-funding is very much the norm in countries like Latvia.
It really can be a very difficult profession for young
artists to start in.
7 .Did you ever think you'd have
to, or ever want to give up playing?
As I said, I did ‘give up’ on the piano when
I thought I may end up as a kind of tartan Julian Bream/Segovia
back in the late seventies, but since then, no, absolutely
never! Perhaps your questions imply that you, Joe, have
too much of a capitalistic, Americanised business slant
on music? I certainly hope not, and would be delighted
to try and ‘convert’ you if this is the case!!!
I prefer to be more ‘organic’ in the sense
that today playing piano is as basic to my existence on
earth as eating, sleeping and breathing, (indeed that reminds
me of a really embarrassing piece which reached the front
page of the local Aberdeen newspaper, ‘The Press
and Journal’, back in 1978 when Mary Alexander was
quoted as saying ‘Murray sleeps, eats and breathes
music’.
Perhaps teachers need to argue more
strongly the importance of spiritual and non materialistic
riches that come from
life as a musician. Sure, 99 per cent of pianists are grossly
underpaid, but I like to think that all true pianists are
infinitely richer than unhappy businessmen who may earn
five times more on average in terms of salary, but are
at least that number of times more bored with their day
to day rituals than the pianists are! Therefore, when properly
educated, the real pianists on this earth could never begin
to seriously think of ‘giving up’!
CONCERT CAREER/AGENTS 8. What is the purpose exactly of an agent?
This has always seemed unclear to me.
There have been numerous, useful articles
published, (including a very good one by the Incorporated
Society of Musicians
a few years back) explaining the ways in which managers/agents
can be invaluable. When things begin to get really busy
most artists find the necessity of an agent absolutely
vital. But there is no point, in my view, of trying to
create a career out of thin air for a young artist, and
there are no substitutes for ‘building up a career
from the inside’. By that I mean that the musician
has important responsibilities to ensure that the quality
of his prepared interpretations are such that his artistry
will speak for itself, leading to the emergence of a reputation,
return engagements, and the expansion of concert activity.
When an artist already has a busy schedule, then an agent
can come on board easily and help ease the strain in all
sorts of marvellous ways.
9. Do you need an agent in order
to be taken seriously?
At the risk of sounding repetitive,
it is important to emphasise that it is the quality and
authority with which
an artist performs that will ensure that he is ‘taken
seriously’, nothing else. Certainly there are many
highly regarded musicians who do not feel the need for
a conventional manager to help them.
10 .If you DO indeed need an agent, HOW do
you get an agent?
Horses will inevitably find carts,
but carts will never find horses! This may sound a bit
flat, in which case I
sincerely apologise, but it is important to understand
that a musician’s priorities have to be musical.
11. If you choose to go it alone, HOW do you
start?
IN a sense, every pianist has to constantly ‘go
it alone’. I remember being impressed with your own
playing, Jo, a number of years ago when I first heard you
in music competitions at a junior level. I awarded you
a number of prizes, I seem to recall, and that was a phase
in the growth of your career. So you got ‘started’ a
long time ago, and the same goes for every other conservatoire
student in the country and elsewhere. Continue and develop!
LANDMARKS
12. How did you get your first concerto
with a professional orchestra?
This month I have been extremely saddened
and shocked by the sudden death of William Webb, former
administrator
of the National Youth Orchestra of Scotland. A most talented
conductor and musician as well as a warm-hearted man. He
heard my playing and engaged me for a NYOS tour with Prokofiev’s
Third Concerto under the inspired baton of Christopher
Adey. I was only eighteen, but had already played Rachmaninov
with the Chetham’s Symphony Orchestra at the Halle
Proms under the late Wilfred Boettcher. The press were
very kind at the time, luckily (‘A pianist with a
first class technique, and also taste’, Paul Dewhurst,
Daily Telegraph, July 1983, after the Rachmaninov-Paganini,
and ‘Murray McLachlan was soloist in Prokofiev’s
Third Concerto, bringing to it brilliance, eloquence and
power. We shall hear much more of this talented young musician,
who is still in his late teens’, Malcom Rayment,
Glasgow Herald, August 1983). But if you mean a professional
orchestra proper, then I auditioned successfully in March
1987 for an engagement in the Netherlands, performing Rachmaninov’s
Piano Concerto number two with the Dutch Radio Symphony
Orchestra on national television. This performance was
in fact broadcast throughout the continent in November
1987, and was a tremendous experience at the time. Other
memorable early experiences included two performances of
the Schumann concerto with the Royal Philharmonic under
the late Australian conductor Stuart Challender (Cambridge
Corn Exchange and Fairfield Halls, Croydon, both November
1987). Stuart was absolutely marvellous. I remember he
had a really positive influence after our first meeting,
one to one, in a practice studio. Perhaps understandably,
I was feeling more than a little concerned about how I
would perform with one of the world’s most famous
bands. But Stuart simply told me to concentrate on singing
through my fingers, let my imagination soar, and stop worrying
about the technical challenges, as I had prepared the piece
well.
Other happy early experiences included
a really exciting tour, again with the Rachmaninov-Paganini
variations and
NYOS, but this time under the wonderful guidance of the
late Sir Alexander Gibson. We sailed by Ferry and played
in the Shetlands, Faroe Islands, Stavanger in Norway, and
at the Aberdeen International Youth Festival (August 1986).
Incidentally, it is amazing the number of professional
musicians who have performed in the Aberdeen Festival over
the years; Sir Simon Rattle, for example, performed the
solo piano part in Stravinsky’s Concerto for Piano
and wind with the Glasgow Youth Orchestra there back in
the early seventies!
I must also mention the magnificent
conductor Jerzy Maksymiuk, with whom I enjoyed broadcasting
both Prokofiev’s
Third and Rachmaninov’s First Concertos with the
BBC Scottish Symphony at an early stage too.
13. How did you get your proms debut?
14. Who paid for your Wigmore Hall debut? (and south bank,
etc)
15. How did you gain an international reputation? How did
you get the opportunity to play overseas?
16. How do you get to play in International Festivals (including
Aldeburgh, Glasgow International Series, etc)]
Forgive me, Joe, if I collect all of
these together and simply say I really cannot remember.
With most concerts
the telephone rings and you check your diary, practice,
do the gig, and that is that! But from my answer to the
last question ( number 12 on your list)I think you can
see that there is a certain logical pattern about my early ‘development’,
though in all honesty I do not think that I have had the
time to notice this until just now! Basically it is that
one project inevitably and logically will lead to another.
Certainly I practised a lot- and still do so! No matter
how busy you are with external activities and pressures,
it is incredibly important to take the necessary time to
really steep yourself in the dots on all those pages of
scores you are engaged to interpret in front of audiences.
REPERTOIRE 17.
Are you associated with a certain area of repertoire?
One of the most marvellous things about
being a pianist is the vast repertoire, and I have an
insatiable appetite
for music! There are obvious threads which have led to
associations in my concert and recording career, the most
obvious being the Russian, British, Busonian, Beethovenian
and Brahmsian emphasis and projects over the years. But
I’ve also played a lot of Charles Camilleri, a surprisingly
large amount of Chopin, Liszt and also most of the standard
concertos,
18. Are you happy to play ALL repertoire?
No. I do not think that an artist should perform in public
music which he is not convinced by as a performer. Of course
there is a difference between music I am happy to listen
to but would prefer not to play, (there is no example of
music I am happy to play but would hate to listen to!!!).
19. Do you prefer to play solo, or
with other people either with orchestra ormore intimate
ensembles?
I love it all! Intimate ensembles over the years has included
collaborations with the saxophonist Tommy Smith, Piano
Quintets with the Edinburgh String Quartet in particular,
many piano trios, many duo recitals with violinists and
cellists (Alexander Baillie and Timothy Gill spring to
mind from the 1990s)and most recently a happy piano duet
team-up with my wife Kathryn. We have already performed
the Rite of Spring and recorded Charles Camilleri, and
have a series of recitals in the diary for the summer of
2004.
RECORDING
20. How did you get into recording?
Olympia invited me to record a single disc of Myaskovsky
on the very kind recommendation of Peter Katin after their
managing director heard me perform the Schumann Concerto
with the Royal Philharmonic in the Fairfield Halls, Croydon
back in 1987. One disc led happily to success and the invitation
to record another, then another, then a series. Now there
are over 30 and rising!
21. How did you get a recording contract?
There has never been anything as rigid as a legal agreement!
22. Do you make any money from recording?
Yes I have been very, very fortunate indeed, and it is
always a surprise to see discs you made many years ago
still being re-issued and gaining some royalties.
23. Have you indeed LOST money from recording?
Again I can only say that fate has
been kind. Or perhaps I have been too much of a ‘stick in the mud’ to
ever hand over sums in order to record. Quite simply, I
have never been involved with a recording project in which
I paid to perform!
24. How do you feel that recording has changed
since you first started, both technological advances and
ways of
marketing?
When I first started it was at the
beginning of the compact disc era and there was a lot
of money around, and a lot
of optimism for the future. Things became much harder in
the 1990s, with companies vanishing and a certain ‘saturation’ occurring
in the market-place. Now we are in a strange transition,
with the ‘downloading’ from PC’s still
a largely unknown long-term threat to the industry. I am
not sure what the future will bring.
TEACHING
25.At what point did you decide to be a teacher?
With both parents in the teaching profession, it is probably
in my blood, and I have always wanted to have teaching
in my life to an important extent.
26. How important is teaching to you as a musician
- I mean, do you feel you grow more fully because you teach?
Without question this is the case! Every day in the teaching
room is a day of learning for me. I really strongly believe
this, and only have to reflect on the huge difference in
my approach today from a couple of years ago. Pupils are
colleagues more than anything else! And believe me, it
teaching continues to be educational from every aspect
of life as a person, not merely as a musician!
27. How do you feel about starting beginners?
Time is the difficulty, but if the circumstances are good,
then I do not have anything specifically against it. Certainly
I am enjoying teaching my own children from this level.
28. Do you feel it is harder to start
someone from scratch or harder to take someone on who
has been
taught before?
If you view teaching as a learning
experience,view challenges as something positive, then
nothing in itself is ‘hard’.
If you are teaching talented pupils, then it is a great
pleasure to collaborate with them either at the beginning
or during any stage of their particular musical journey.
It is difficult only when people are not committed, do
not love music passionately, or are not destined to spend
hours and hours searching for sonorities at the keyboard.
PERSONAL LIFE (Not actually THAT personal dont worry)
29. How do you manage to balance
your professional and personal life?
One compliments the other! Of course it is very, very
busy, but everything about my existence on earth is wonderfully
stimulating, and that is fantastic. My secret for balance
and organisation is more of a theory than a scientifically
proven fact: Everything will seem to fit into place when
enthusiasm breeds energy in the individual to do the impossible.
30. Is this something you are at
peace with or is it always a conflict of interest?
Apparent conflicts can often be blessings
and resolutions in disguise. I feel happiest when I can
laugh at myself,
be very calm, get a good night’s sleep and remember
how wonderful my life is!
31. Can you switch off totally from music when
at home, or are you the type to be constantly mulling it
over
in your head?
Music is life. Why turn it off? There
is usually music playing in my head as I go about every
day tasks,and even
as I write this I’m ‘listening’ internally
to Borodin’s 2nd String Quartet (goodness knows why!).
But it doesn’t feel stressful at all, in fact it
is quite the reverse.
FINALLY
32. It seems mighty hard just now
as a young musician at the start of my career. Does it
EVER get easier??!!
My advice is not to think about music as a career, but
rather as a way of life. Live music to the full and then
it will be your greatest source of strength!
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